Dragon Age meme 12 April 8th, 2019, 1:35 am
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I woke up at 5 am and wrote this down.
And yes, I still refuse to accept the DAI suggestion of a new canon.

Posted @ April 8th, 2019, 1:35 am

Posted @ November 18th, 2019, 2:24 am

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I agree. It really annoys me how Bioware tries to bothsame all the sides you can take, except no matter how you dress it up it becomes imperialism/colonialism apologia which creeps me the hell out. Especially since they are a north american company and all the baggage it implies.
They do the same with mages and arguably the Avvar as well...

Posted @ April 8th, 2019, 3:42 am

Maybe it ain't good to do this for shit writing, but I tend to try and make sense of all the little anomalous bits and fit them together. In this case, maybe it was just one dickhead clan being shitters to mages, or being hyper-conscious of how tolerant the humans in their particular region are toward how many mages they can have. Or the DAO clans projecting the way they feel about it onto the rest of their people. The writers could be going for an angle of 'as much as they might wish, the Dalish aren't a monoculture, and different clans have different beliefs' or something along those lines. Or it could be shit writing. But it's early in the morning and my optimism is currently singing that one song that's always playing with birds chirping and shit.

@Cimbri: I would argue that it's a more realistic approach overall. Instead of authority-bad/anarchy-good or vice versa, they're trying to show both sides of the issues at hand. Like some templars being monstrous abusers while others are actively trying to do right by their charges, while some mages out-and-out want to walk all over other people while others are like the ones in Honnleath just wanting to be left alone.

Posted @ April 8th, 2019, 8:36 am

i don't see it as a new canon, as far as i'm concerned that particular clan is an exception and is by no means represend the majority of the clans.
what bothers me is that the game didn't let my dalish be more vocal about it. lke vivienne says "your clan might be like that but what about otehr clans?" and he couldnt respond with "the dalish takes care of their own, any clan that abandon one of it's member like that are not real dalish" and i actually share this.

now one can argue that it was like that with merrill, but it was different. her clan turned against her because they belived that she is endangering the clan (they were wrong, but it's a different matter), if she'd abandom her attempt to fix the mirror they would take her back easily.

and look, the dalish aran't perfect, ton of prejudice andself rightouness, but while they are jerks to outsiders, they take care of her own, so as i said, minaeve's clan is an exception and they don't represent true dalish spirit.

@Broseidon: i don't think it's shit writing, i'm actually fine with them doing this, because it make sense that some clans will be bad eggs, it's totally logical. what bothers me is that i couldn't contradict minaeve and vivi when they claimed that it was standard for the dalish to abandon mages "no my clan is not a special case, minaeve's clan was".

Posted @ April 8th, 2019, 8:58 am

If DA4 comes out, I want two background Tevinter lords or scholars or workers standing in some city square or meeting place and discussing Mages, Templars, elves and other groups that live outside their country and argue about differences in DAO lore vs DAI lore like complete gossips.
"The barbaric southerners don't treat the mages with the amazed respect and reverence. Only the Dalish care about the mages in manner befiting their rank."
"...Dude, if there are too many they leave them for dead. Where did you hear that?"

or something like that, only much better written.

Posted @ April 8th, 2019, 2:04 pm

Dragon age lore has a lot of retcons: horned Qunari, Ben-Hasrath, demon hirearchy, half elves (still sore about that)... that's just what I could think of off the top of my head.

Posted @ April 10th, 2019, 1:06 am

@Norgrath: hmm... non of those things were retconed. horned qunari was always a thing, it just due to clipping they had sten hornless; not sure what was retconed about the demons or ben hasrath; as for half elves, it was established back in origins that an elf and a human offspring will always be a human.

Posted @ April 10th, 2019, 3:58 am

@Blazypika2: My argument on Ben Hasrath is that they don't fit at all with the culture of the qunari as described in Origins, you meet several other qunari in Origins and none of them have horns, demons basically shuffled around a lot of things (adding terrors, despair demons, and envy) and Feynriel totally spit on the always human thing with his talk of "elf blooded human" and "passing"

Posted @ April 11th, 2019, 1:19 am

I personally just like to think that it was just one REALLY shitty Dalish Clan that the rest of the clans REALLY hate and disdain for these practices.

Posted @ April 12th, 2019, 6:51 am

@Norgrath: The Tal Vashoth (i highly doubt, that most of them were actually part of the Qun) were hornless because 1. Technically issues: If they had been technically capable to do this they'd done this in the first place (with Sten). NPCs in Origins were pretty much copy and past with the race swapped (i run somewhere in Denerim into an elven clone of Anora).

Posted @ April 15th, 2019, 4:52 am

@Norgrath: the ben hassrath are spies, they are part of the priesthood that fall under the ariqun. unlike the soldiers who are part of the antaam, they don't live by the blade. your mistake is assuming that sten who is a soldier is a representative of every qunari, which is a mistake. he himself even say so in a banter. i suggest you replay dragon age origins with what we learned about the qunari in dragon age 2 and 3, you may find how much it compliment it.

you only meet one qunari in origins and that's sten. it's not uncommon for tal vashoth to tear off their horns.

demons were not "shuffled around", we just haven't met all of them yet. the codex mention the common ones. david gaider also mentioned "remorse" which is yet to appear.

feynriel is a human with elven blood. what is that a spit in the face of? we physically a human (skinny humans is a thing and have zero thing to do with elves) and having an elven mother makes him elven blooded. those things were introduced in dragon age origins. in fact slim couldry (crime wave missions) is elf blooded human.

Posted @ April 18th, 2019, 10:04 am

@Cimbri: Oh yes. I know they want to make both alternatives (like mages vs templars) be equally viable options, but... that sort of doesn't work when they show us again and again that no, there are several societies that deal with magic in a way that works much better than the circles. Like the Dalish, pre-DAI. Or, yes, the Avvar...

@Broseidon: I mean, sure, one asshat clan could explain it, but I think my main issue is that you don't really get to talk about it? The most you can say, as a Dalish, is that your clan didn't do it like that. But that is my main problem with a lot of issues that you get confronted with in the game - not enough of a chance to argue.

@Blazypika2: Well, Merrill had to leave her clan as an adult, because of the blood magic and the demon and whatnot. That's not really the same as dumping a kid in the woods and, at best, hoping that it will make it civilization. Bare minimum would be to dump the kid at the edge of a village at least.

@mamiser: Aw man, yes, do want. It will be one of those spots you walk by fifty times just to hear what they're up to now.

@Norgrath: I think a lot of the lore vs what is actually in the game comes down to lack of communication. The missing moon comes to mind. I think I remember someone mentioning a graveyard in Redcliffe despite Fereldans burning their dead too.

@NewWillinium: I would be fine with that, but then I would also want other nearby clans to demand semi-regular meetups so they can take their unwanted children because damnit, what is wrong with you??

Posted @ April 22nd, 2019, 3:22 pm