Our friend Marugitto, from last week's comic, told us some beautiful stories of how her Dragon Age Inquisition-ing went. Including being so terrified of accidentally romancing Iron Bull that she didn't talk to him, and was thus betrayed come Trespasser. It didn't go well either, since he was her main tank.
Some adjustments later...
I rolled a Human Rogue for my second run, who believed that she was the Herald of Andraste and thus did everything to benefit the Inquisition as a whole, including sacrificing the Chargers for Qunari support (needless to say, the Fade was a bad time for her).
I brought Iron Bull thinking he'd support me and show those Qunari, since I had max approval with him. Joke was on me, huh?
umm..like i said, games been out a bit, soo its my fault i haven't played and i don't care about spoilers since i SHOULD have played by now...but umm...what triggers iron bull to betray you here?
@Draven22: Either you sacrifice the Chargers during his personal quest or you don't do his personal quest at all. That's what makes him betray you.
@Guest: i take it the chargers are a group of qunari who he was apart of?
@Draven22: Nah. Bull was a spy sent to Thedas under cover of being a Tal Vashoth mercenary, so he gathered a multi-species mercenary band of loveable misfits and called them the Chargers. During a quest, he's forced to choose between saving them and staying loyal to the Qunari. Save them, and he gets kicked out and comes to terms with it, deciding to stay with the Inquisition. Leave them to die, and he betrays you too when push comes to shove.
@Guest: ahhh ok that makes sense, since qunari are..honor bound by the qun but also by some other things..and from what i see of iron bull hes not your....typical qunari so it makes sense he would be conflicted, and i'm thinking i'm the only one out of those who read champions and heros who hasn't played inquistion ^^:
@zenat: I remember something like this happening in one of the end-game fights in Neverwinter Nights 2. There were two differences, though. First: the party member who betrayed me was underarmed because I'd never bothered arming him in the first place. Second: before the fight started the named enemy I was facing said "Oh, one more thing, I notice you didn't arm some of your companions properly, almost as though you suspected they might betray you." And then he gestures and the turncoat wizard has new gear.
(If you're wondering why the enemy used the plural when only one ally betrayed me, multiple allies can turn on you at that point and the game apparently assumes you'll fail to placate at least two. The party seems to have thought it was betrayed by more than one person after the fight, too.)
(And while this is obvious enough that I feel weird bringing it up, I feel like someone should bring up the fact that they clearly marked flirt options in this game to avoid companions ninja-mancing you like Zevran did to me once. So I'm not sure why Marugitto was worried about that.)
@4mation: I haven't had him betray me yet (but I know it's a matter of time considering the other playthrough I've got started), but what fucks me up is how similar "boss" and "bas" are.
@Draven22: Don't worry, we've got quite a few readers who have mentioned that they haven't played Inquisition but still keep up with the comic. Personally I think it is kind of sweet.
@riverdaleswhiteflash: You come to my comic and tell me you killed my baby? Sand is precious and the best companion NWN2 has to offer and I cannot believe I am reading this with my own two eyes. (Spoiler: Qara tried to screw me over but survived about three seconds because I had everyone attacked her first, she was too dangerous to allow the time to use a single spell. I may also have been super upset when I heard what happened to my companions in Mask of the Betrayer.)
Marugitto played her game with a lot of breaks as she was quite busy with cosplay competitions and whatnot, and I think she forgot quite a few things in between long breaks. I'm not sure if she suffers from the same "must choose flirt option if available" problem as I do, but when you do you can suddenly be locked into a romance without intending to... sorry Blackwall, we have to talk (Dutiful friendly promotion: http://marugittocosplay.tumblr.com/)
@zenat: I haven't played Mask of the Betrayer, but my understanding is that Sand survives that terrible thing that happens to everyone else because he's a wizard and wizards are crazy prepared. So there's that silver lining, apparently.
(And in my defense, Sand attacked me first. Something about Qara having the potential to be more dangerous than the King Of Shadows, which is ridiculous since the KoS is actually capable of making an evil plan other than "I will light the thing immediately in front of me on fire." Though at least his reasoning for betraying me is more mature than Qara's for betraying you. Also, do I get points for not killing Bishop?)
Before i played Trespasser i was afraid that Bull would betray me because i knew he could and i didn't check if he would do it my case because spoilers.
I'm glad he stayed with me. Also because i could never sacrifice the chargers.
@zenat: Okay but why did you have to point out the similarity between "bas" and "boss". How dare you.
I could never sacrifice the Chargers so unless I at some point simply don't do his personal quest, Bull will never betray me.