[Mid DA:I spoilers] The One and Only July 6th, 2015, 12:04 am
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It's not a secret that I love Loghain, but it kind of surprises me that others DON'T love him. He is fantastic. How can you not bring him with you everywhere you go once you can? How is he not the star of a thousand DLCs?
And how can he not have more friends in game? HOW?

For real though, the realization made me sad.

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So... How was the Fade?

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 1:13 am

@Deonis: I hate everything.

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 3:28 am

I like Loghain too. Hell even before reading the books I found him interesting. So make it four fans :D

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 7:07 am

Make it five fans lol. In my first playthrough I left Loghain alive because I thought Riordan made a lot of sense with his reasoning. Then after i had a chance to interact with Loghain I warmed up to his character haha

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 8:28 am

@Nelira: Pretty much this ^

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 10:19 am

@Nelira: And when Riordan reveals why Grey Wardens are necessary, I thought that maybe if Loghain knew why they are important, then perhaps he may had a better opinion of them, and may have reconsidered the betrayal. But perhaps is a flimsy reason, and it's what I thought at the moment.

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 10:50 am

I love that Hawke's friends with him though. After everything she still has no qualms whatsoever and will be friends with pretty much anyone who is prepared to put up with her.

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 2:07 pm

*Raises hand* I like him too (also Anora, who is similarly unloved).

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 3:25 pm

Loghain is a terrible person.

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 4:54 pm

Seven Loghain fans, actually

(Origins Spoilers) I didn't like Loghain until I finally added him to my party in Origins while running through with an 'evil' character. I saved going back to Ostagar (the DLC) until I got him and immediately warmed up to him afterward (since it was obvious that he did both feel he was in the right, but felt guilty for what had happened, regardless). Nowadays I play through Origins, tell Alistair to fuck off, and side with my grumpy guy in all regards.

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 8:21 pm

Have you ever read the Bioware Novel, A Stolen Throne? Young Loghain is one of the main characters, and it gave me a lot of perspective into his mindset.

Posted @ July 6th, 2015, 10:59 pm

I also like him for very similar reasons that many have already mentioned. Also, there's something to characters that oppose you, I suppose. The "opposites attract" rule in a lighter form maybe. He's great to argue with.

Posted @ July 8th, 2015, 6:52 am

Haha a lot of Loghains fans are coming out of the woodworks for this one XD

@MetalBox: Honestly I don't really understand why they keep the whole "really only a Warden can defeat an Archdemon beacause..." a secret in the first place. Considering how rare an actual Blight is it wouldn't be that big a deterrent anyway.

@ScreamingVikin: Pretty sure they met at Failed Heroes Anonymous or something.

@Norgrath: Anora totally grew on me the second round, when she wasn't in the way to my (failed) climb to power.

@TheGYouLoveToHate: Sure. Still love him.

@iamOne: That awkward moment when you look at your world states and realize that Loghain lives in the majority of them... :I

@Kat: I have! Even made a super quick comic about it a while back (aaaand then Gaider commented on it on tumblr and was a really good sport and I DIED OF SHAME BECAUSE IT WAS SO SLOPPILY MADE) I didn't feel that I really learned anything new about Loghain in the book though, on account of being ... err... very keen on investigating all the conversation options. Also, old grumpy Loghain is infinitely better than young rash Loghain as far as I am concerned.

Posted @ July 8th, 2015, 2:54 pm

Eight fans

@zenat the reason he probably doesn't have much friends in warden as they probably blame him for the death of much of the Grey Wardens in Ferelden as they couldn't blame the good King Cailan for being a idiot trying to be a hero. So that is most likely why the Hero of Ferelden is his only freind

Posted @ July 8th, 2015, 2:56 pm


I agree with everyone else, I thought that once you save him in Origins everyone was cool with it. I didn't expect Alistair to leave though. I'm sure he knows people but by that time he's close to only the Warden but even he's away. I saved him because I thought he could still be of use, I mean the Warden doesn't know jack compared to Loghain about being a general, I didn't regret since he just ended up being an absolute bro that I managed to save him in the Fade the first time.

Posted @ July 9th, 2015, 4:11 am

@zenat: Yeah, I agree on both accounts. But still, even if it influences a 1% inside the mind of a strategist to overcome his hostility (towards orlesians, and later wardens), and think on a bigger picture...

Posted @ July 10th, 2015, 7:41 am

Reporting that I and at least 4 of my 6 DA-playing friends are Loghain's fans too :D

Posted @ July 11th, 2015, 12:05 pm


I wouldn't mind Loghain on my side. But I'd like to keep him and Alistair. Not to mention, from the start I always kept thinking that he'd start frothing out the mouth at some point and in a rather bemusingly insane elderly moment think that the Warden and whoever they may be bumping are his mother and an Orlesion.......I have an awful mindset I am aware but blame Garth Ennis for that one.
But still, would've been nice to have him as part of the gang, he could've taken a spot as Mabari hound number 2. The Grouchy One

Posted @ July 11th, 2015, 8:24 pm

I prefer the way his severed head looks on a pike.

Posted @ July 14th, 2015, 11:41 pm

Fucking love Loghain. I literally got as far as him agreeing to hire Zevran on my first playthrough, hit pause, and clicked over to ao3 for stories.

Posted @ June 26th, 2017, 6:53 am

Loghain the traitor

I fucking despised him, hate the done for the good of all types, like it actually makes up for basically killing a whole army(your own people at that) and letting your king (which also is the son of your best friend and husband to your daugther).
Thats just wrong, and also the reason i always let Allistar excecute him everytime.!

Posted @ July 14th, 2017, 10:35 am


Thought I do not like the whole leaving his son to die, he probably wouldn't have done something smart if it was not heroic. I imagine once you kill your family, people just think of you as that guy who wouldn't mind retreating for the good of all and leaving you to cutscene death, so not someone you might want with you.

Their loss ill take that risk. All we can do now is hope he can survive the death spiders. Also I kept him alive as long as possible, he survived DA1, but I think the game wants him to die. Hear me a moment, dragon age 1 if you don't kill him you lose Alistair. Dragon age 1 again, if you don't sleep with Morrigan(if male warden), or make Loghain do it, which I did, he dies.

And now they make us choose, if he survives all this, between Hawke and Loghain. No other character save Anders has more possible (plot) deaths than him.

Posted @ January 20th, 2018, 9:46 pm

@wildmageguy: I know :I All the more reason I'm going to keep wading through rivers of blood to keep him alive. Bioware better either keep giving me chances to save him, or accept that I will rage like no other if they auto-kill him at this point.

Posted @ January 21st, 2018, 10:39 am