No Brothers Here! April 8th, 2013, 12:41 am
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Nice to know that the sith aren’t killing *all* jedi, I suppose.

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Reader Comments:

ah loopholes, the art of douche-bags

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 1:28 am


The Jedi Council, fighting to hold back progress since... pretty much forever.

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 1:38 am


Troopers, not the most accurate blasters in the armory.

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 2:12 am


@Almightyra: Yes -.- I just *love* how the exclude ALL of the women. It's fantastic. Urgh.

@Norgrath: Yes... yes, indeed.

@Deonis: Indeed. *sighs*

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 5:12 am


As much as I really like Bioware's games, and KoTOR in particular, they do have some faults. TOR has a lot more female characters.

To be fair though, I think the Jedi Order from the movies only has one or two ladies.

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 6:39 am


They weren't being offensive...

@Amare: Hate to be a Douchie McNitpick but they aren't excluding the females. It's a quirk of English but the Jedi Order seems to be going off the same title schema as co-ed fraternities, where regardless of gender everyone is a "Brother" as a neutral term. Granted when such fraternities were first established they were predominately male but since the admittance of female members they haven't changed what to call their members.

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 10:17 am


By the way: Love the comic. I've been reading you guys since you posted the first comics on deviantArt! :)

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 10:21 am


@Griffen: The fact that there are very few Jedi ladies in the movies is rather more a problem than an explanation. In a universe where both men and women have the capability of developing the force, it should be divided rather equally. I have found nothing to state otherwise...

Bioware is getting better at including strong fleshed out female characters, but as many others they still have a lot of work to do. However, they are one of those companies who are putting in most effort and that will always be appreciated by me :D.

@Nadiasama: Honestly, regardless of how it is used in the universe, it's not very gender neutral to say "Brother". It's a clearly masculine word and will no matter what make for a type of exclusion. They do after all use the word "brother" and "sister" as such as seen by Luke and Leia and "brother" is designated to male characters. I just wish that they'd consider just using the term, "every day jedi of our order are killed bla bla.." or "every day our fellow jedi are killed.... bla bla..." It's not that hard to make it less gender specified...

Thanks for reading our comics and commenting! (and liking it <3) It's much appreciated! :D

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 11:21 am


Agreed!

@Amare: I totally agree with you so frickin much. I first played through the game as a guy but that is beside the point. Even as a female revan they are all like you are great and connection to the force. Yet they send you off do all there work excuse me "tests" to see if you are worthy of using the force. Like when you have to get Juhani cause for some reason they don't want to leave their spots. When I did this playing this as a female revan I was okay bitches where is my spot now? I didn't everything you guys couldn't fix and fixed it times ten.

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 12:01 pm


HA

It's one of the reasons I only play a female jedi in both KOTR games. So at the end of these not so subtle sausage fests, it's a woman that saves the day.

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 5:31 pm


@Amare: I think the lack of female Jedi compared to male, or at least super prominent ones, I can blame on just the writers of Star Wars stuff.

I love KoTOR, but its very basic and I blame the lack of many females and other things on that. Basic good/evil choices, basic romances, basic subplots for the most part, basic cartoony villain, basic story (minus the twist), kinda basic characters (minus droids and potentially Revan).

That's why I love KoTOR II, even though its not Bioware and its 13 month development time screwed the game (especially the last three levels) over. Subtle choices, deep story, Kreia and HK flushing out Revan, Nihlus, explaining Revan's actions, Jedi Masters getting cut off from the force for being stupid asshats, and overall better characters.

Also, how can anyone hate a game where you can give HK a peace core that makes him a pacifist.

Posted @ April 8th, 2013, 7:24 pm


@SummerxWinter: Ye-ah. I find the forced training rather weird. I found it weird the first time I played through the game too. And if I was a Padwan with only meager experience, why the hell would they trust me to turn another Padwan from the dark side? It's a pretty momentous task and not one that should be taken lightly. That whole bit was a bit forced :I. Along with no one actually recognizing Revan at all. I mean had Revan been running around with that mask on always? It's just... urgh.

@Hevv: Word. I felt sort of the same way in the Mass Effect games. Because they tend to lean that way too, especially on the human side.

@Griffen: Well, regardless, Bioware were the writers of KotOR, they changed a lot of of things and they could have changed that too. Nothing was stopping them, not really.

I love KotOR too. It was the game that got me into the rpg genre. The game that got me thinking about games as containing relationships and conversations rather than just violence. Even though there is a lot of violence in it too. It's just, playing it again, years later with another perspective on things makes me see it's faults as well. I don't think it's a bad thing though, but rather more something that's interesting to discuss.

It is very basic and they went for a lot of safe options in it. They could have gone further, but then again LucasArts were also involved. I don't know how much control they had on the process. The twist is actually sort of basic too. HK-47 is gold though and I'll always love him <3.

KotOR II also tweaked the system in much needed ways, it had better character interactions and better characters. I agree with you there. I liked KotOR II a lot more than the first mainly due to character interraction, but story wise the first game was more finished. The second game should have been given more time :I.

I don't want to give HK-47 a peace core :I. That's like screwing his entire personality over :I.

Posted @ April 9th, 2013, 2:38 am


Just going to be random...

Calling someone a, "Brother" is a masculine term as with calling someone a, "Sister" is feminine... Calling someone, "Apprentice," or, "Jedi" seems more gender neutral imo. I always enjoyed playing bioware games the most since they put so much more effort into creating actual female/male CHARACTERS instead of making them one-dimensional or a stereotype. :D

Posted @ April 9th, 2013, 2:03 pm


@Jay: And then there's Ogrhen

Posted @ April 9th, 2013, 5:00 pm


@Amare: Well I meant the scene in general, and HK afterwards. Even the Exile couldn't take leaving the peace core in HK.

Posted @ April 10th, 2013, 4:54 pm


@Norgrath: I never said that ALL the characters were perfect :D

Posted @ April 10th, 2013, 6:11 pm


You could make a squeal to this about how a male jedi escapes the law by having a sex change

Posted @ April 14th, 2013, 4:38 am