I am not a fan of epilogues that essentially tells you that all you went through (game or book or movie, whatever) is being retold by someone. And it's frequently someone old telling the story to someone young, which tends to add another element of inappropriateness to the whole scenario. It often clashes horribly with the actual story - as it did in ME3.
All I could think when I got to that part was 'really? Is the stargazer telling his grandchild about *everything* Shepard ever did? Even the bit where she wandered into the men's bathroom for the eight time?' That's just bad story telling, grandpa :I
dat ass *bites lip*
@zenat: I agree, but with DA2, it was good storytelling, you know? I mean. It's Varric. 'nuff said.
I decided it was just a flash-forward to show that human society remembered Shepard, not that the old man had told all of the game...Of course, in that case, he could have just told his grandson a terribly mangled version of the story while we weren't looking.
Unfortunately the whole "remembering Shepard" thing kinda didn't make sense because you were supposed to believe at the time that space travel and technology had been lost with the Relays gone.
You win ALL the awards. Seriously, Bioware did not think the grandpa epilogue through at all. It's kind of like How I Met Your Mother levels of ridiculous when you actually think about it...
Could this possibly be Mass Effect 4? Only time will tell.
I don't think the Stargazer gramps was telling the story of Shepard - that you just played through- at all... he definitely told *A* story of the game's ending --supposedly. This ain't to DA2 varric status!
Totally agreeing with Bluerosebud up there.
@Griffen, with the new happy ME3 ending it was explained that the mass relays were severely damaged and it was implied that everything would be repaired, according to Hackett...
@mahigan: Ah, but DA2 started out by telling us this is a story retold by someone who was there. And even then, it's a bit err... concerning how important Varric thinks it is to inform Cassandra of all the junk loot Hawke dragged around.
@Bluerosebud: I suppose that could be the case, yes. But the implication is that the DLC is that 'one more story', so... :/
@Guest: All the awards? I... I just... I'm not sure where to put them all! :O
@Losuurx: Possibly, though I always assumed it was a 'go buy and play a DLC' thing. Especially with Shepard almost certainly being dead, making a ME4 staring Shepard impossible.
@Wond: The problem with the Stargazer ending and the extended cut handwave of 'oh but they got the mass relays going again' is that the child asks the Stargazer when he will be able to travel to the stars and what they will find there. They evidently know about Shepard (ie, it's post-ending, which 'happened so very long ago') but it seems to imply that they've lost the technology of space travel.
@zenat: Damn them loopholes! I see the contradictory of it. They should've just adapted the indoctrination theory to wash that ending out of our mouths :( ah well.
@zenat: Well, you know Varric, the parts about junk loot would be part of screwing with Cassandra. But, I think my biggest question of all would be, in the Annihilation epilogue, how would the Stargazer know about what Shepard did during private hours? Did Liara have a drone spy on Shepard, and then place it in the beacon?
@Wond: Yeah :/ There are so many ways it would make sense too, or made to work, which is the saddest part.
@Shiba_Naganori: Probably the same way that Varric does. Either spying (EDI *is* a blabbermouth after all) or simply making it up.
@Shiba_Naganori: "And then Hawke picked up some torn trousers.....There's really no significance behind it, just want to be thorough." :P
@Wond: I know that in the extended edition that that wasn't the case, but as zenat pointed out in the original it was implied they lost star flight.