So. I started this... a long time ago in a galaxy far away, wanting to do a more serious Dragon Age comic and try a new way of working. I grew bored with it and put it away. Took it out, got bored, repeat. And now, done! At long last!
I don't know. I just got this mental image of there being children in the orphanage that got blown up with the chantry that owed their lives to Anders in the first place. Thus this. Yes. Good. Carry on.
Attempts at humor will continue shortly.
Anders saw a conflict that wouldn't end without some decisive action. Unfortunately that involved blowing up the Chantry, but really, I could care less about Petrice and the Templars there.
@Griffen: You can still say that when this comic essentially pointed out that innocents died? It's in the freaking canon, and you still think that he was completely justified?!
Edit: Well, the comic isn't canon, but the fact that innocents like the kid here died in that Chantry is pretty damn canon.
Also, there would also be plenty of people that would have had the Chantry explosion rubble crush them or people they love or their property.
I once planned on making series of doujinsi about Hawke's adventures between acts. During one of them she would meet a young girl who would become a second Bethany to her. That girl would die in the explosion because she had become a sister
Yeah. The situation was complicated and the mages were suffering. But I still disapprove of his decision. If he wanted to kill Petrice, he should kill her and her only. Not every bystander who was just... passing by
This is rather sad. I remember imagining something similar, when someone mentioned the Chantry was in charge of an orphanage that happened to be in the building behind it.
I still feel pity when I kill Anders, and I mostly do it so Sebastian would leave the city alone. But he's so far gone, I don't think sparing him would help in any way - neither him, nor others.
This is a good page. Made me think about DA again.
@byarru: Well, Petrice is dead at that point (unless you sided with her against the qunari) :/ And really, yes the situation for mages was terrible (especially in Kirkwall), but he did not improve it.
@Bansheebot: Thank you. It did feel a bit odd posting a serious comic here XD
I would probably have felt pity for Anders in the end too, if I hadn't accidentally gotten stuck in a relationship with him with no escape. He reminds me far too much about a manipulative ex of mine in the first acts, so I spent the whole game getting more and more annoyed with him. The killing knife ended up being the breakup knife. Ahem. I may have cackled something about freedom.
I felt bad for the mages' situation, but like a lot of people I hated Anders for doing that. Innocent people were involved and frankly, I'd like to believe there was another way.
People might find this serious or something like that, but I think it's really funny xD I love this comic.
@zenat: I get the feeling that Anders is meant to represent that one destructive ex, since my girlfriend is currently romancing Anders (and regretting it) I have not told her what he does, and I'm quite certain that I know her reaction.
We have that ever elusive third option in games that writers rarely go to, we saw sympathetic templars in DA2, if Anders was smart (which he wasn't), he would have reached out to them through known friendly contacts. Sure, there's a lack of a feeling of "THE CAUSE!", but it would lead to less death, and allow the mages of Kirkwall to choose their own fate, rather than the Chantry, or one apostate.
I like seeing a serious comic every once in a while, if done well enough, it'll create interesting conversations.
@FuckCompromise: Well, each to their own XD As long as you like it, it's fine by me.
@Shiba_Naganori: Oh definitely. It was one of the strong points in his character development - he felt like a real person. I just wish that there was a 'break up' option available at all times, or at least more than the 'you suck in bed, so this isn't going to work out' option that is pretty much the only one in the game :I
Whenever I think about the romance options in DA2, I can't help but to wonder about Hawke's mental health and view of self. None of them are healthy stabile people as such, though clearly some are more than others. I find it interesting that these are the *only* people that Hawke will hook up with, and s/he will keep them fairly close regardless if they are romatically involved or not. Half-wondering if it stems from Hawke's inability to save their sibling in the beginning and all the other failures that follow.
And that third option... yes :I I tried, I really tried, but the game wouldn't let me compromise :I Just imagine Meredith out of the way, Cullen in charge, after you have trotted around as a mage and made a point to be friendly and help him at all times. Things would change. I hope.
The reason the third option never eventuated is that, while Anders might've wanted to help the mages to start with, Justice's interest was instead in punishing the rest of the world. In the end "Justice" prevailed and blew up the chantry despite the fact that it would make things worse for mages.
@zenat: Or you could just magic around Cullen, and he wouldn't notice.
That's an interesting theory, and I'm not just trying to suck up to one of the comic's creators, but it could be that Hawke is a 'broken character', and that s/he is one of those characters who try to 'save' their partner, to the point that Hawke might fall with them. It might have been the death of the sibling that caused Hawke to feel this way, or it could have gone as far as his/her father's death, giving Hawke the feeling of needing to save everyone close to him/her. Even when pretty much everyone stabs Hawke in the back.
@Norgrath: I don't really feel that it is fair to blame it all on Justice. At that point Anders and Justice have blended to such an extent that neither is without guilt.
@Shiba_Naganori: True, losing his/her father and Lothering, constantly being on the run, Leandra dumping the responsibilities of a parent on Hawke to a great extent... it really does set Hawke up for a less than stellar view of self, regardless if you are a mage or not. That followed by all the failures in the game (and truthfully, DA2 is a long series of unfortunate events that Hawke tries but ultimately cannot prevent)... yes, I can see Hawke as a broken character. No matter how high you rise, no matter the titles or power... Hrm. Yes. I like it. Though I think I would have liked a chance to choose to romance someone more normal and stable to be honest XD
This hurts me
I always imagine this type of thing happening when Anders does this part. Not to mention all the countless innocents that either get killed, lose their home(because there were fires scattered around the WHOLE city) losing loved ones or dying themselves.
For some reason I felt a little bad for either letting him live or killing him. For me killing him seemed to give him more satisfaction beyond being released from Vengeance, it seemed like Hawke was giving him some sort of Martyr-ship for it. I'm sure he knew what the outcome of his plan was going to be, he only made the position for mages far worse(as seen in asunder)... Why exactly did they make this guy a romancable?
@zenat: Very well done. Some Anders fans gloss over the massive amount of collateral damage that's going to happen when you blow up a building in a crowded section of the city. They'd have been digging bodies out of the rubble in Hightown for days afterward.
My mage Hawke didn't kill Anders because he refused to make him a martyr, and also because he wanted Anders to have to spend the rest of his life living with the weight of what he'd done.
He also wondered why Anders didn't just come to him and say, "Hey, maybe we should just take Meredith out." My Hawke would have been totally on board with that.
Way to guilt trip and make this sort of thing even more than what it actually is just to try and pull the emotional manipulation out of people who read this. And some people even think this is canon, ffs. Considering Elthina was given plenty of opportunities to do her damn job, considering she had been given plenty of warnings regarding her life, and subsequently the lives within the chantry, then it's her own damn fault.
The orphanage wasn't even inside the chantry. You would think that you'd come across it in your exploration of said chantry.
Instead, you deliberately lie in your comic in order to emotionally manipulate others into believing your views. How charming and classy. Dealing with those who do such things for propaganda against various good causes IRL has made this even more disgusting for me.
Now I'm just repulsed by you. Especially since these comics seemed to have been following a more comical theme.
@Xerxes: Oh, how dare I do a serious comic to practice new ways of working. How dare I spend time thinking about the whole "that was a massive explosion" and "the chantry takes care of the orphans" in combo with out of gameplay info.
Seriously, way to overreact and be insanely rude about it.
I'm not trying to guilt trip anyone. Just because there isn't a physical orphanage in game doesn't mean it doesn't exist (take into account the recycled caves and whatnot, do you really think they had the time and money to put that sort of thing in?) Am I to assume you react like this when you read fanfic that deals with more serious themes too?
And also, blaming Elthina for her murder is really gross. She was doing her job, as far as I have come to understand it, and didn't want to stop doing that because of threats of violence. I would be the first in line to agree that she could have done more to calm the templar-mage situation, but she seems to think that she does what she should do.
And we all have different values and opinions. Yes?
Oh my Maker this is awesome, just... Amazing...