Here's a tip, game developers: Few things make women feel less welcome in the gaming community as unnecessary sexualisation of female characters (especially player characters).
I want to be able (but not forced) to flirt and ho through a game, it's true, but if I'm an agent of the Empire and NOT undercover as a stripper there is no reason why you should make my clothes stripperific. There's been quite a few armors that I refused to use because flaunting my stomach is NOT professional. You know. If you're an imperial agent. I'm sure it's very professional for working ladies in the Republic. But you know how THEY are...
That being said. I haven't played Star Wars: the old republic in ages. I got stuck on the final battle and I took great offense. But I miss Sha, and the chiss, and the frustration that I never got to seduce Chance to the Empire's side.
Edit: I have since bought another month of play and gotten past that and finished the agent's story. Ending is rather underwhelming, but the story overall is great.
Once again, right on the money! Even for the Twi'lek it doesn't make sense; in the books it makes it very clear that Ryloth is so hot that Tatooine is the favored place for a summer vacation. That being said, if your home ecosystem is that hot, aren't you going to be cold as all get out one somewhere like Tython or Coruscant? So, following that logic, shouldn't they be wearing layers and layers of clothes?
@twixtnightandmorn: That... is a very good point. If anyone is going to be running around in a bikini, it's technically the chiss who come from an ice planet. But I recon they are too professional for that sort of thing. Which I wholeheartedly approve of.
Does this seriously happen in SWTOR? I have yet to play it, why is it that games seem to persist on making female characters wear less :\ Not that I'm going to fling around the Sexist card or anything it just gets rather annoying sometimes...
@Jay: There are times when the sexist card should be used, and inappropriately skimpy armor for only one gender is definitely one of them.
It's not a frequent thing in swtor - most of the armors are respectable and pretty much the same regardless of the gender of your character. But then you get the few that are not and they stand out like a sore thumb. And then there's the slave girl outfits that you can buy that have no male version... (what if I want to have Vector run around in a golden thong with a bit of silk just barely obscuring his behind?)
I'm so glad they didn't do this in DA. I think I would have respected it just a little less. After 7yrs of playing World of Warcraft (and still playing), I've seen a LOT of skimpy armor. To the point where I play all male characters at this point.
On a random note, in DA... literally, the first thing I noticed was how the female characters run. It's like... they have a disjointed hip or something, it's so freaking weird. I have ONE female character and that's it because I can't stand the way they run.
@mahigan: Sadly I must now go "rogue armor", especially the dalish design. Aka 'who needs intestines or a non-pierced heart anyway'. I know what you mean about playing male characters to avoid that though.
Haha, really? I never thought about it. I noticed in ME that women (at least female Shepard) moves her arms like a man and it looks so weird and uncomfortable.
Oh goddd this drives me crazy. (And is it just me or do male bounty hunters get cooler semi-face-concealing headgear much earlier in the game?)
I love my agent, but I got stuck on the Jadus fight and ragequit x__x I haven't touched her in awhile.
Sadly none of the other classes have a story even half as good as the agents (but the agents was absolutely amazing).
In relation to the main theme: Have you seen the respective "club dance" emotes? I'm pretty sure that a jedi could get kicked out of the order for dancing as they do in the female one.
@amiko_16: I understand completely. I got stuck there too, and ended up leveling 2-3 extra levels before managing to get past him. And I needed help to deal with the final fight in chapter 3 -.-
@Norgrath: Yeah, I'm not really impressed with the bounty hunter story so far, though I am bonding with my character, so that's at least something.
Oh dear, yes I have. Amare and I tend to take an awkward syncronized dance break when we play. Preferably in the face of npcs or on the heads of giant statues. The female club dance... well. I suppose it is better than the male dances because those just leave me giggling and going 'dear, what are you doing?'
Oh yes. This happens in every modern game damnit X_X I remember Morrowind when armour looked almost the same (logically the same) on both genders. Women had a bit more elegant clothes but nothing like this. Oblivion was... horrible. I remember wearing the steel armour which looked like armour on a man and like a dress on a woman. Thankfully games like DA:O and Skyrim are better. Some clothes are too sexy but most look more or less normal.
I don't mind sexy look but I don't wanna look like a hooker. I wanna look like a warrior!
On the topic of difficulty: Stay away from the Sith Inquisitor if you found the IA final boss too hard.
I don't think the problem is gaming developers being sexist, but rather gamers. Or at least a majority of them.
And with 'sexist' I mean 'teenaged and hormone-driven'.
Sex sells, and as long as it sells, it's going to be sold. Video games, comic books,... you name it. If the target demographic is teenage boys, you can expect cleavage and midriff to happen.
@Lynneiah: True, but by targeting teenage boys alone they are excluding a massive part of a potential market, known as women. I believe that this over the top sexualization is one of the main reasons why women don't play games as much as men (though our numbers are increasing), and it encourages a sexist attitude in the gaming community which further alienates us. Of course it is easier to do what they have always done, but it is a poor excuse for setting a low standard.
@zenat: Agreed. It's about high time these people realize that their target demographic is far from their only demographic.
However, I still think the best way to make them stop is by convincing them not portraying women the way they do will get them more money, rather than convincing them it's wrong.
Sad, I know, but that's how the free market works, I'm afraid. :/
I've been playing TOR again, getting ready for the new expansion, and had this happen with my Sith Warrior the other day. She and Quinn were both wearing the same armor, but, funny thing, her boobs were hanging out and Quinn actually had on, ya know, ARMOR. Showed it to my 76-year-old grandmother, who couldn't believe they actually do stuff like that in games.
That's what's great about Dragons Dogma: It's got both options. You can clad your Warrior Maidens ;) in entirely professional unisex armour or the more stereotypical armour.
That's a major reason why I always play as a male character. I hate it when vulnerable stomach, thighs, and/or cleavage is left open to attack. Even fully covered armors are unnecessarily form-fitting and look quite unpractical. On the other hand, it would be nice to have unpractical clothes for the men.